lakespapa wrote:Check out Realskier on this — they like the Enforcer.
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lakespapa wrote:Check out Realskier on this — they like the Enforcer.
lakespapa wrote:Directional in the sense that the ski rewards carving inputs, more tip to tail carving inputs, than it rewards the swively, twin-tippy, pivoty style preferred by many fat skis. Check out Realskier on this — they like the Enforcer.
I'm no expert PMTSer, but I know the ski is a medium flex and very definite on edge. It likes forward pressure, but carves well from the center, too. I avoid heel-pushing, so I can't speak to that, and inclination (sans angulation) isn't my style.
So is it a ski that will teach you how to ski? I can't say with any certainty.
jbotti wrote:Let's reiterate one more time that Realskiers is not a good source for reviews for skis for PMTS skiers. In fact it is a bad source as the testers are not PMTS skiers and they are using different movements (with lots of active rotary). Therefore they like skis that reward those movements. We like skis that reward the essentials and that make using the easier (or in some cases possible).
NothingClever wrote:Let me zero in on the exact advice i'm looking for now... Max, Heluva, JBotti - what would you shortlist for an approx. 95-105mm ski for west coast powder/crud/chop? (specifically the Mammoth days where you have 2 fresh runs and then spend the rest of the day working the stashes and the tracked out dense chop)
Thanks!
HeluvaSkier wrote:lakespapa wrote:Directional in the sense that the ski rewards carving inputs, more tip to tail carving inputs, than it rewards the swively, twin-tippy, pivoty style preferred by many fat skis. Check out Realskier on this — they like the Enforcer.
I'm no expert PMTSer, but I know the ski is a medium flex and very definite on edge. It likes forward pressure, but carves well from the center, too. I avoid heel-pushing, so I can't speak to that, and inclination (sans angulation) isn't my style.
So is it a ski that will teach you how to ski? I can't say with any certainty.
I've spent some quality time on the Enforcer 93. While it holds an edge, it is not a ski that actually likes to carve. It hates forward pressure because there is literally no tip on the snow (see Jb's comments about the Kore... they apply here). The small contact surface makes the ski easy to pivot and nervous at speed. I can say with certainty that the Enforcer will not teach someone to ski well... In fact I'd wager it would be just the opposite.
jbotti wrote:NothingClever wrote:Let me zero in on the exact advice i'm looking for now... Max, Heluva, JBotti - what would you shortlist for an approx. 95-105mm ski for west coast powder/crud/chop? (specifically the Mammoth days where you have 2 fresh runs and then spend the rest of the day working the stashes and the tracked out dense chop)
Thanks!
Essentially you are asking what is the PMTS replacement for the head Rock N Roll. Its a great question. I have two pairs of RNR's and I have 2-3 years more life in them but ultimately I will need a replacement. I have the opportunity to demo a lot of skis at my home mountain. They carry the Dynastar Legend X 88 (which HSS carries) and they also carry the X 96 which appears to be somewhat similar in build and construction. But assuming that the next width up is essentially the same ski except wider is often a very big mistake and often they double the tip and tail rocker going from an 88mm waisted to a 105mm waisted ski (with the 95mm one in the middle). The guys in my shop think that the ski that replaces my RNR's is the Stockli Stormrider 95 and they like this years version which is a little stiffer than the past 2 years version.
I am back in Montana next week and if I get some time to demo them I will try all three skis.
For those that love Kastle skis this may be sacrilege but those MX series skis are not good PMTS off piste skis. They are too stiff. You might find if you had the Monster 88 (widely available cheap on ebay) which bends nicely on hard snow and has a great flex pattern for off piste skiing that you might not be looking for a 105mm ski for Mammoth. Just a thought.
lakespapa wrote:
I have no trouble making it carve.
lakespapa wrote:Interesting. You're a far, far better skier than I am, Greg, but I have no trouble making it carve.
NothingClever wrote:Agree with you on the MXs being too stiff for soft off-piste. I enjoy them a lot on the firmer all-mtn day.
Max_501 wrote:lakespapa wrote:Interesting. You're a far, far better skier than I am, Greg, but I have no trouble making it carve.
Carving means different things to different skiers. We'd have to see video of you on them to see what you mean when you say you have no trouble making them carve. Generally speaking a ski that rewards rotary input is not a very good tool for the carving we strive for in PMTS, as Greg alludes to above.
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