Intelligent Image Analysis, or IIA Check Point 3

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Intelligent Image Analysis, or IIA Check Point 3

Postby h.harb » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:40 pm

Does the old outside ski lead the tipping at the high "C" of the new arc?
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Both my knees are flexed at the same amount at the same time in the transition.

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Notice here that Hirscher is in the air with both skis. even when not touching the snow; he tips his old outside ski (releasing ski) before his big toe edge ski.
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Re: Number 3 check

Postby Max_501 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:15 pm

It can be difficult to see if the old outside ski is leading the tipping. The muscles used to tip a ski to the BTE are much stronger than the muscles used to tip to the LTE. If the skis are at the same edge angle then the LTE tipping is leading. Sometimes you can get lucky and find a frame showing the LTE tipping clearly leading the BTE as shown in this image.

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Re: Number 3 check

Postby RRT » Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:28 pm

Also noticing the counter in all but particularly with respect to it being held in transitions in Numbers 2 and 3 and maybe that's to come as well later. Lovin' it.
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Re: Number 3 check

Postby h.harb » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:16 am

Notice how when we demonstrate transitions, there is always a point where both knees have the same amount of flex?
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Re: Number 3 check

Postby h.harb » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:19 am

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Nice Photo, but not PMTS, "Check Point" skiing!!!! Can Anyone tell us why this won't work?
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Re: Number 3 check

Postby NoCleverName » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:02 am

It's a bit grainy but it does appear that the stance ski has a lot more "tip" than the free ski so I'm guessing a push-off preceded this photo.
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Re: Number 3 check

Postby arothafel » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:05 am

His new stance ski / leg appears to fully extended already.
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Re: Number 3 check

Postby h.harb » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:27 am

Yes, so there is no way to adjust or increase angles, unless you lean or park. And there will be far too much pressure needed in this set up in the high C to stay upright.
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Re: Number 3 check

Postby acali » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:07 pm

h.harb wrote:Notice how when we demonstrate transitions, there is always a point where both knees have the same amount of flex?


Is the optimal timing to relax the old stance leg so that both knees become equally flexed right at the moment that both skis become flat?
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Re: Number 3 check

Postby h.harb » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:19 pm

Bingo!
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Re: Number 3 check

Postby BigE » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:35 pm

Incredible info....really good.... thank you.
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Re: Intelligent Image Analysis, or IIA Check Point 3

Postby h.harb » Thu May 02, 2013 1:47 pm

I am developing a new learning and teaching technology based on "Intelligent Image Analysis" as shown in the check points described on the Forum. No on has ever done this in a systematic way in skiing before. You will be able to use your video or images and compare them to the Check points. We will provide the movements and images that you can compare yourself to the best skiers in the world.
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Re: Intelligent Image Analysis, or IIA Check Point 3

Postby h.harb » Thu May 02, 2013 3:34 pm

This technology will be combined with an instant replay, on the slope video system, and a 2nd monitor that demonstrates the correct images to strive for. In the process there will be a description of the correct movement for the athlete to work on and appropriate exercises. This coaching will include data collecting and evaluation of the athlete's skiing so it can be compared to conventional coaching. All aspects of learning will be monitored and data collected, determining the rate of skill acquisition. Questionnaires on cards will be completed by the athletes on the hill during training. This whole system will be tested, streamlined and refined to than allow use in the future by any ski club, race program or ski school.

Of course PMTS will be the movement based skiing system the program will develop use. The reason for this is PMTS makes it possible in the first place because it is the only tangible, measurable skiing system that has movement standards that can be measured empirically.
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Re: Intelligent Image Analysis, or IIA Check Point 3

Postby Ihamilton » Thu May 02, 2013 3:38 pm

Will this be ready for November /2012?
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Re: Intelligent Image Analysis, or IIA Check Point 3

Postby h.harb » Thu May 02, 2013 3:47 pm

I'm developing it now with an exercise scientist and a communications professor, we intend to present our findings at the International Congress. I'll be using it this summer.
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