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noob silly question

Postby Skyblues » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:16 am

Hello,
I've been skiing for roughly twenty years and self taught. The last few years have seen little development and I've been struggling to make any progress.
I came across PMTS and I thought I'd give it a try as the theory seems more logical than other systems used. I bought Anyone can be an expert skier 1 book.
I've started to read but needed help on understanding the basics of tipping. How does the balanced foot follow the free tipping foot? If I stand on one leg
and tip the free foot I'll be balanced on one flat foot that's not tipping. I know this probably sounds like a very daft question to some of you but the way I've
read this is that the balanced foot will follow with no conscious effort.

Thank you for any help.
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Re: noob silly question

Postby precisionchiro » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:40 am

Skyblues,

Have you actually tried stationary tipping movements on snow yet? (or even indoors) If you haven't, you need to actually do them to see and feel what happens.
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Re: noob silly question

Postby Skyblues » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:59 am

Thanks for the reply precisionchiro.

No not yet on the snow. I'm due to go on holiday to Tremblant in a week or two :D. I've tried standing indoors and find that I'm balanced on one foot with the other foot tipping but the balanced foot stays flat and balanced. Could I be stopping the balanced foot tipping as I'm trying to stay balanced?
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Re: noob silly question

Postby ErikCO » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:43 am

Try it on snow. You will find it happens. The exact explanation involves a lot of biomechanics, center of gravity, etc. But once you get on snow (or even a slant board in ski boots) you will see that it does work.
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Re: noob silly question

Postby precisionchiro » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:08 pm

Skyblues wrote:Thanks for the reply precisionchiro.

No not yet on the snow. I'm due to go on holiday to Tremblant in a week or two :D. I've tried standing indoors and find that I'm balanced on one foot with the other foot tipping but the balanced foot stays flat and balanced. Could I be stopping the balanced foot tipping as I'm trying to stay balanced?


Um, I guess I'll go ahead and ask this.

You said you tried it indoors....

Did you have your ski boots on? Or were you in regular shoes or no shoes?
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Re: noob silly question

Postby Skyblues » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:31 pm

Thanks for all the quick rep lied everyone much appreciated.
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Re: noob silly question

Postby Skyblues » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:36 pm

Um, I guess I'll go ahead and ask this.

You said you tried it indoors....

Did you have your ski boots on? Or were you in regular shoes or no shoes


:lol: avoiding the obvious innuendo.

I tried to emulate the exercise in bare feet.
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Re: noob silly question

Postby ErikCO » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:44 pm

If you were in bare feet, that was most of the reason why. If you were doing it correctly, you should have felt an increase in pressure on the inside portion of your foot, however the amount of mobility in your ankle, outside of a ski boot, will make it so your foot doesn't actually tip. If you get in ski boots, these will limit the range of motion of your ankle and you will end up tipping as a result. At least initially, you would need to be on a carpet that is not very thick. Thick carpet will hide what is happening, hardwood/tile floor will probably end up with you taking a spill. :P
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Re: noob silly question

Postby precisionchiro » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:45 pm

Skyblues wrote:
:lol: avoiding the obvious innuendo.

I tried to emulate the exercise in bare feet.


Yup. I guess you know what I'm going to say...

In order to get a sense and feel for the stance foot "following" the tipping actions of the free foot, you need to do this in ski boots.

Barefoot tipping is good for "waking up" and using the muscles of the feet, ankles, and lower legs. But doing this in your ski boots will address your questions in your original post above.

Skyblues, please report back here on this thread once you try it in ski boots.

This will help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUkzM10iV7s
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Re: noob silly question

Postby h.harb » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:32 pm

Good video to demonstrate the action.
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Re: noob silly question

Postby Skyblues » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:34 am

Again thanks for all the help and advice.

Looking forward to the journey of learning this system and becoming a better skier.
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