h.harb wrote:If they were, they would have looked, read and used the information on this forum. They don't bother to look for better information.
Japow wrote:Maybe they don't like all the instructor bashing that goes on around here? I am interested in getting better, that's why registered, but I really dislike this aspect of the forum. I've always hated instructors who talk down other peoples teaching, if I get a client who has had some suspect (imho) advice from another instructor, I don't say that instructor is rubbish, don't listen to them, I just explain that we might do things differently.
I don't want this post to be about the merits of PMTS vs other instructing systems, because honestly I don't know that much about PMTS yet, but surely you must be able to entertain the possibility that maybe the view you currently have of how to ski might not be perfect, has it not changed over the years? Will it change in the future? There have obviously been a lot of good skiers without PMTS, I have skied with a few ex world cup downhillers, demo teamers from the PSIA and NZSIA, CSIA L4s, high level racers, mogullers and pro freeskiers and they all have different styles, I also bet all of them became amazing at skiing without PMTS and probably with a lot of help from instructors/coaches.
There are a lot of shoddy instructors out there, no doubt (especially in America), but there are lot of good ones as well, why not recognise that and maybe they will start listening to you.
Japow wrote:
There are a lot of shoddy instructors out there, no doubt (especially in America), but there are lot of good ones as well, why not recognise that and maybe they will start listening to you.
Bolter wrote:Japow wrote:Maybe they don't like all the instructor bashing that goes on around here? I am interested in getting better, that's why registered, but I really dislike this aspect of the forum. I've always hated instructors who talk down other peoples teaching, if I get a client who has had some suspect (imho) advice from another instructor, I don't say that instructor is rubbish, don't listen to them, I just explain that we might do things differently.
I don't want this post to be about the merits of PMTS vs other instructing systems, because honestly I don't know that much about PMTS yet, but surely you must be able to entertain the possibility that maybe the view you currently have of how to ski might not be perfect, has it not changed over the years? Will it change in the future? There have obviously been a lot of good skiers without PMTS, I have skied with a few ex world cup downhillers, demo teamers from the PSIA and NZSIA, CSIA L4s, high level racers, mogullers and pro freeskiers and they all have different styles, I also bet all of them became amazing at skiing without PMTS and probably with a lot of help from instructors/coaches.
There are a lot of shoddy instructors out there, no doubt (especially in America), but there are lot of good ones as well, why not recognise that and maybe they will start listening to you.
So what! Who you ski with changes nothing. IMO you need to focus on PMTS tech, not this subject. You are wrong on so many levels that you risk being viewed as disingenuous and a troll.
If you want the best from this forum, do this . . .
Post video, ask for MA, read the feedback, work on your skiing, video the results, post and repeat.
Oh yeah, take a chill pill.
That is all YOU kneed to know.
JR
I just really don't get all the instructor hate and tbh find it pretty offputting, I see no point to it at all, and when a thread like this gets created it's just asking for a response.
h.harb wrote:the public has the right to be very cautious about how they invest their ski lesson dollars
Japow wrote:There have obviously been a lot of good skiers without PMTS,
Max_501 wrote:There are some great skiers out there that also happen to be TTS instructors. Harald has said as much. The question is what happens when they done their instructor hat? Are they teaching the same movements that they use in their own expert skiing?
Not!There have obviously been a lot of good skiers without PMTS,
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