cheesehead wrote:geoffda wrote:1) What are the movements in the Super Phantom move?
The Super Phantom is just a one-footed release. As you finish the turn, balance completely on the LTE and lighten/lift and tip the old stance ski.
2) Is the Super Phantom simply a more clearly defined Phantom move or is there a different movement?
The Phantom move can be performed at any point to make the skis the turn. The Super Phantom is using the Phantom Move to link turns; i.e. when you use the Phantom Move to transition, you are doing the Super Phantom. Once your student understands the Phantom Move, using the Super Phantom to change edges is the next logical progression. When they can do that, they will have instantly achieved an extremely high level of skiing.
3) What are the movements in a weighted release?
As you finish the turn, keep all you weight on the stance foot. Flex and tip and move into the new turn. Transfer your weight to the new stance ski after the edge change. As a drill, lift the old free foot prior to flexing. Doing that will ensure that all of your weight is on the old stance foot.
4) What movements are different in a Super Phantom move compared to a weighted release?
The movements are the same. The only difference is the order of release-transfer-engage. In the Super Phantom you transfer your balance/weight first (transfer-release-engage). In the weighted release, the weight/balance transfer happens last(release-engage-transfer). Or, if you do a two-footed release, you get release-transfer-engage.
I have been a little foggy about the differences described here, and as far as I know, is accurate and clearly described.
One point of terminology/technique I am still not clear on is one-footed-release vs. phantom move: same thing or different?
Also is it really necessary to have "phantom move" and "super phantom" if they are actually the same thing? In other words, is the "super phantom" really a "phantom move turn"? Different terminologies are not used for the other releases -- a one-footed release is assumed to be part of a turn, so you don't have a "super one-footed release" meaning a turn with a one-footed release. And there is no "super 2-footed release" or "super weighted release" either.
It is confusing for us beginners to try to figure out what might be the difference if there is really none. I suppose the super phantom term is out in the world now but would it be better to avoid using it?
The Phantom Move encompasses the movements of pullback, lift (flex), and tip. The One-Footed Release gets its name from the fact that you transfer all you weight to the new stance foot prior to releasing the turn. When we talk about releases, the focus is simply on describing how our feet are weighted prior to the release. If you read Harald's quote (posted by Max_501) earlier in the thread, it indicates how the Super Phantom terminology came to be. The difference between the Super Phantom and the Phantom move is that the former requires that you balance on LTE as you begin to lift and tip (which by and large means that you would do that by combining a OFR with the Phantom move). This is very different from (as an example) a Two-Footed-Release type turn where one would release to flat skis and delay full balance transfer and engagement; finishing the turn by performing a Phantom Move in the fall-line. Hopefully you can see that Super Phantom and Phantom Move mean slightly different things. The Super Phantom is harder to do; it is much easier to pull back, lift and tip while standing on a flat ski (Phantom Move) than while trying to balance on LTE (Super Phantom). OTOH, it is easier to push-off when standing on a flat ski. So the Super Phantom requires more skill, but it also prevents you from stemming in the transition. The Phantom Move can be applied at any point in the turn, whereas the Super Phantom really implies a very specific way of executing the entire turn (since you normally wouldn't switch from BTE back to LTE on the stance foot in the middle of the turn). At least in camps, the two terms are not used interchangeably and mean what I've described above.