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Short turns without steering

Postby Skeeter » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:55 pm

Hi,

What is the best drill for getting rid of steering in short turns? I can link medium/large turns with no steering, but when I try to make short turns, I have this uncontrollable urge to twist my feet.

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Re: Short turns without steering

Postby milesb » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:17 pm

are you steering at the start (which usually results in a pivot) or end of the turn? Also, are you extending to start your turns or flexing?
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Re: Short turns without steering

Postby Skeeter » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:30 pm

I am steering at the start. No extending, I am flexing.

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Re: Short turns without steering

Postby Max_501 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:59 am

One and two footed releases. See Book/Video 2.
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Re: Short turns without steering

Postby rstraker » Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:03 pm

How about brushed carves?
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Re: Short turns without steering

Postby polecat » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:38 pm

The release is critical to setting up the carve (long, short or brushed).

So releases first.



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Re: Short turns without steering

Postby h.harb » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:38 am

Ask jbotti about the exercise, I now call it "The Botti Counter". It eliminates steering and rotation.
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Re: Short turns without steering

Postby Skeeter » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:45 pm

Hi Jbotti,

Could you kindly describe the "Botti Counter" :D

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Re: Short turns without steering

Postby jbotti » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:30 pm

I worked with Harald on this for several days. Of everything that I have learned and been taught in PMTS, this is by far the hardest to explain without video or without being on snow next to someone. As well what Harald was attempting to have me do requires some movement specificity that requires a reasonably high level of mastery over all the essentials. This is something that I can post some video of next year and Harald can as well. In the meantime read these two posts and threads.

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viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3365

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Re: Short turns without steering

Postby Skeeter » Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:52 pm

Thanks all. Will test this all out next trip to the mountains.

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Re: Short turns without steering

Postby h.harb » Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:43 am

I might change the name to the "Botti Blocker" exercise, it rolls off the tongue better. The exercise is active hip countering to release the edges. The skis stay flat in transition at first, until the hip is well CA for the new direction. Tipping is added after and only after turn release and transition is achieved with hip CA movements. I have never written this exercise up in any book or video. It came to me while working with John, it's really a retro, Austrian "Heel Push" or in German, "Fersen Schub". This is how the original "Wedeln", was introduced or discovered.

It is not really a heel push, it's more like a winding and unwinding of the hips that creates a torque in the legs and transfers it to the skis. The great thing about it is that when you detune it and add tipping, you have a CA hip in every turn. And in heavy, wet, deep snow, and bumps this is a real benefit, when properly managed.
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