Stem cell therapy anyone try ?

Stem cell therapy anyone try ?

Postby Darren » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:21 am

To heal joint injuries using stem cells instead of operations is it a better way to go ?

Anyone with any experience with being treated with stem cells or know of someone that has been treated what are your thoughts on stem cells ?
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Re: Stem cell therapy anyone try ?

Postby Marc » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:01 pm

No personal experience but I did some search in PubMed a couple of years ago when my knees started to squeak and ake. Some random info:

Cell-based therapy
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28825779
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5347439/

Exercise therapy or placebo equal or better than surgery?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4957588/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29420232

"..meniscal tear observed [with radiology/MRI] in 35% of persons older than 50 years of age; two thirds of these tears are asymptomatic."

Knee surgery probably results in osteoarthritis in a couple of years. Source?

Radiology/MRI is not the exact diagnostic tool you think it is.
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Re: Stem cell therapy anyone try ?

Postby David25 » Thu May 17, 2018 1:28 am

Is it safe to put your life in the chiropractor’s hands?



I was researching available options for stem cell treatment in Florida.

The clinic that I stumbled upon was NSI Stem Cell. I was curious what kind of doctors work there. It seemed strange that they didn’t put the list of their doctors on the website, though the first thing I want to know when looking for a doctor is his qualification and experience.



So, I kept looking and here is what I’ve found.



NSI Stem Cell are chiropractors.



Here is the quote from Regenerative Medicine Now



“Dr. Eric Edgerton D.C

Clearwater, FL

Dr. Eric Edgerton is the founder and Director of the NSI Stem Cell, located in Clearwater, Florida. He holds a doctorate in chiropractic and postgraduate studies including functional medicine, sports medicine, applied clinical nutrition, functional blood chemistry, lymphatic detoxification, and stress management.”

Just so you know, DC stands for Doctor of Chiropractic.

I am confused cuz I always thought that chiropractor is some kind of quack who doesn't have enough education to perform surgeries, injections, etc.

Here is a quote from Wikipedia:

“Chiropractic is a form of alternative medicine mostly concerned with the diagnosis and treatment of mechanical disorders of the musculoskeletal system, especially the spine. Proponents claim that such disorders affect general health via the nervous system, claims which are demonstrably false.”

Okay, and this “doctor” is a director, founder and a practising physician in NSI Stem Cell?

Is it safe and legal?
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Re: Stem cell therapy anyone try ?

Postby GregM » Thu May 17, 2018 9:15 pm

Mark, I am not a doctor but can share my experience with the knee pain (due to arthritis). It started around 4 - 5 years ago and became quite bad especially while skiing. Occasionally, I discovered during my cultured foods research that many people swear by kombucha. You can get it in the natural food stores or better brew it yourself. My knee pain was gone after about three month and last season I skied with no issues whatsoever. It helped with all joints ROM and I am much more flexible now. Also a much better balance this year for the same reasons.

In general, US has a prohibition against cultured foods -- everything is sold pasteurized even products like pickles have all good bacteria killed. The probiotics they sell is a joke as well. Our bodies need a healthy bacteria especially considering the sterile food they sell and antibiotic use. Milk kefir is a really good choice for getting an excellent real supply of good bacteria and will boost your immune system and overall health. Beware that the milk kefir they sell in the grocery stores is not the best choice (it lacks many important components) and you are better of preparing it yourself using the milk kefir grains.

I found a good collection of information on cultured foods here.
There are videos on youtube on how to make kombucha and milk kefir as well.

You can get both kombucha SCOBY and milk kefir grains locally (usually through craigslist) or through ebay.
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Re: Stem cell therapy anyone try ?

Postby GregM » Thu May 17, 2018 9:18 pm

David,
You answered your own question. Every time you think you need a Chiropractor help just go to Physical Therapist. Physical Therapists are real doctors.
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Re: Stem cell therapy anyone try ?

Postby jbotti » Sun May 20, 2018 8:11 am

Not that I have an opinion on any of this but Physical Therapists are not doctors at all of any kind. Many are great at what they do but they aren't doctors.
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Re: Stem cell therapy anyone try ?

Postby GregM » Mon May 21, 2018 10:14 am

John,

Thanks for correcting me on this. After some reading I see that Chiropractors at least have a Doctor of Chiropractor degree and Physical Therapists have Doctor of Physical Therapy degree both certified by their corresponding accreditation boards. Both degrees require at least 7 years of specialized education and it looks like the Physical Therapist require a college degree in medical oriented field. So yes, they both are not MDs.

I do have opinion on this because unfortunately I had experience dealing with both type of specialists (Chiropractor after a bad car accident and Physical Therapist after a bad lower back injury -- I still keep my handicap driver stickers as a memorabilia :) ).
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