Hirscher! What is the difference, obvious "Essential".

Hirscher! What is the difference, obvious "Essential".

Postby h.harb » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:26 am

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Re: Hirscher! What is the difference, obvious "Essential".

Postby jclayton » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:39 pm

I also noticed what looks like an earlier relaxing of the downhill ski by Hirscher . To tighten the turn , an ealier preparation for the release ? Or is Teds leg longer beause he has lost grip ?
The race technique commentary is becoming very interesting .
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Re: Hirscher! What is the difference, obvious "Essential".

Postby h.harb » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:32 pm

Much of what you see is due to the old, what came first, the chicken or the egg. If you have good pressure and balance at the end of the arc, you can release early. If you don't and or, you are late with the angles, or if you skidded to much at the entry, you have to release later. Hirscher is relaxing earlier this year, and he's very relaxed between turns.
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Re: Hirscher! What is the difference, obvious "Essential".

Postby jclayton » Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:01 am

That's one thing I am realizing more and more , the need not just for relaxation on release but during the whole turn ( in various degrees of course ) . The stiffness of the stance leg is a long lasting hangover of the old pushing sindrome .
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Re: Hirscher! What is the difference, obvious "Essential".

Postby h.harb » Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:37 am

Yes, there should never be a dead spot, if you watch Svindal he has the longest dead spot because he uses pushing and leaning in GS.
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Re: Hirscher! What is the difference, obvious "Essential".

Postby HighAngles » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:14 am

Svindal's use of the stivot at Alta Badia was bordering on obnoxious. Luckily we had Hirscher's run to "cleanse" our minds after that atrocity.
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Re: Hirscher! What is the difference, obvious "Essential".

Postby h.harb » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:42 am

Mark says,
Svindal's use of the stivot at Alta Badia was bordering on obnoxious. Luckily we had Hirscher's run to "cleanse" our minds after that atrocity.


There's a quote to put in the Quote box, well said. Maybe Max_501 can start a "PMTS Famous Quotes" thread?
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Re: Hirscher! What is the difference, obvious "Essential".

Postby Skiasaurus Rex » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:43 pm

What is Svindal doing correctly that has him leading in the overall points? I mean, if he's stivoting and pushing and leaning, is he also nailing other essentials that make up for those lapses? Does he ski the speed events (DH, SG) completely differently from the GS events? Is 8th overall in GS pretty good for a speed skiing specialist? I don't know the long history of WC racing very well, so I don't know what's common and what isn't.

I was watching a long trailer of him big mountain freeskiing and discussing the differences between that and racing…and I think he's inspiring on the big mountain lines. I don't have much of a grasp of his race technique or where he stands relative to other great racers.
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Re: Hirscher! What is the difference, obvious "Essential".

Postby HighAngles » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:58 pm

For Svindal it's the speed events that put him over the top for the overall. He has the size, strength, and courage necessary to excel in the speed events. He clearly has not adjusted well to the new skis in GS because he just doesn't have the technique to carve a complete turn in the tighter course sets.
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Re: Hirscher! What is the difference, obvious "Essential".

Postby h.harb » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:14 pm

Svindal used to win GS races, now he's way out, 2 plus seconds a race. The schedule is always front loaded with SG and Downhill. So the speed guys look like they are way out front . Svindal needs to be top 5 in GS if he wants a chance in the overall. He also didn't score well at the Val Gardina DH. He needs DH and Sg podiums all the time. Lake Louise is a joke (too easy for the men) and he has the strength and skis to get lots of points there.
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