SL - Womens Courchevel - Schild is back

[geoffda]

Winning at Courchevel and becoming the oldest ladies world cup slalom winner in history. Shiffy was out of gas and finished 12th. Resi was in the points. Bad news is that Tessa Worley went to the hospital for a knee exam after a crash in the first run.

http://skiracing.com/stories/schild-sis ... el-podium/

[Max_501]

Marlies had an incredible 2nd run. Very cool to see the Schild sisters together on the podium!

Shiffrin often starts slow at the top and then builds speed which is what happened on the 2nd run. Compare M. Schild's 2nd run to Shiffrin's. Notice how Shiffrin is grinding her edges on the steeps. Grinding is grippy so it's slower.

[geoffda]

Bummer, Worley ruptured her ACL, damaged her meniscus and is out for the season. Tanja Poutianen is in the hospital being evaluated as well.

http://skiracing.com/stories/worley-tea ... or-season/

[geoffda]

Looks like Tanja is Ok, but it sounds like Susanne Riesch re-injured her knee.

[HighAngles]

I haven't been able to find any video of Tessa Worley's fall (and Universal didn't air it). Anyone have a link?

[Max_501]

Anyone have a link?

[HighAngles]

Thanks - that looked painful. The drive to fight to stay upright can certainly backfire where our knees are concerned.

[geoffda]

Here are Mikaela's runs. Definitely an off day. She was really heavy on her edges, which is unusual for her.

[h.harb]

Mikeala's alignment is a little softer and her feet are further apart in the apex, so she has more of a knee angle, rather than a long leg, compared to Schild. Mikalela also reaches more for the big edge, at initiation, Schild rarely has to.

[cheesehead]

... Grinding her edges??? What does that mean?

[HighAngles]

... Grinding her edges??? What does that mean?

Relating back to PMTS (since that's why were all here) I believe that it means she's getting less of her speed and line control early in the turn (High C) and is then reliant on hanging onto her edges later in the turn (and really "grinding" on them) before releasing. Spending more time on your edges late in the turn results in a slower speed, thus a slower time.

[Matt]

... Grinding her edges??? What does that mean?

Relating back to PMTS (since that's why were all here) I believe that it means she's getting less of her speed and line control early in the turn (High C) and is then reliant on hanging onto her edges later in the turn (and really "grinding" on them) before releasing. Spending more time on your edges late in the turn results in a slower speed, thus a slower time.

I think I know what you mean but I think this can be a bit misleading. For example, in a turn with poor high C and late edge set you can spend a very short "time" on you edge late, but it is not fast. Contrary, in a comma shaped turn with high C engagement, the latter part of the turn is flatter and longer, and in essence you spend a longer time on your edges.
The key difference is the force,
Spending more force on your edges late in the turn results in a slower speed, thus a slower time.

[h.harb]

Grinding is when you have to have grip (pressure) immediately on the new edge, as opposed to having time to set up your body angles with your feet and legs, to create angles through tipping. This creates a slicing action, which is fast, like moving a knife forward and back, instead of straight down on a loaf of bread.

[HighAngles]

Grinding is when you have to have grip (pressure) immediately on the new edge, as opposed to having time to set up your body angles with your feet and legs, to create angles through tipping. This creates a slicing action, which is fast, like moving a knife forward and back, instead of straight down on a loaf of bread.

So the root cause for grinding at the World Cup level is a "timing" problem in mismanaging their line through the course? The "have to have grip immediately" comment is where I'm getting that from, but I'm asking.

[cheesehead]

Grinding ... creates a slicing action, which is fast, like moving a knife forward and back, instead of straight down on a loaf of bread.

Does it also cause the stance ski to skid outwards creating a more open stance? It looks like her skis separate without her increasing the tipping angle when she sets that edge and it looks like the stance ski slides out from under her.