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Skiing with Reilly

Postby h.harb » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:54 am

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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby bogiek » Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:13 pm

Reilly is about3 - 6 years seasons behind HH skiing technique
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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby Max_501 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:30 am

Harald writes about Reilly's technique in this blog post. Here's a snippet from it.

Harald: "I really like Reilly's inside arm discipline, it's better than mine, even though inside arm and pole tip forward, is a big PMTS goal. Reilly's release also has more, "jet", he really let's his skis explode forward at release and catches them, pulls them back for tip engagement before the next arc. This is very athletic skiing. I tend to be more absorbing of energy, probably due to my old knees and having less strength than Reilly."
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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby bogiek » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:40 am

In my opinion ;
Harald is to harsh on himself.
If not his excellent technique ,He could've quit skiing long time ego .
( try skiing with pain one day ,never mind years )
Besides the difference in equipment ,there is something else .
Proper frame = success ( like proffessional dancers must have )
Harald savior is the frame ,Reilly is not there yet
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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby Basil j » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:45 am

In all of the videos I have seen HH in, I have noticed that he never skates to start his run. He just pushes off and points them downhill and slowly gains the momentum he is looking for and develops his turn cadence early in the run. I noticed this season, that many skiers start their runs by skating to gain some speed and then they start turning. Is this some thing he avoids deliberately or is it just his "style" to glide into the start of the run? perhaps there is a benefit to this?
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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby Jjmdane » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:45 am

I think the reason he does not skate to start runs is that he spends a fair amount if time from a standstill demonstrating various releases for videos and probably students, that it has become ingrained for him to start his runs that way. I seem to recall a post from the past that he said he liked to start out with TFRs to warm up.
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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby h.harb » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:09 pm

'Skiers who need speed to start a series of turns, are still uncomfortable with a true releasing movement off the big toe edge.'
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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby A.L.E » Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:08 am

Should have swapped jackets...... :wink:
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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby Max_501 » Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:39 am

Other reasons one might skate include starting on a relatively flat pitch and getting up to speed asap as seen in races.
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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby h.harb » Thu May 05, 2016 7:05 am

If we swapped jackets I can still tell the difference, can any one else???? I know I had to explain it frame by frame, to some. People, coaches and instructors don't see it? So don't worry you are in good company, ha!
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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby l2ski » Thu May 05, 2016 9:06 am

h.harb wrote:If we swapped jackets I can still tell the difference, can any one else???? I know I had to explain it frame by frame, to some. People, coaches and instructors don't see it? So don't worry you are in good company, ha!


When these videos came out I went to look frame by frame so I'll give this a try.

What I think is different is that you are more active with counter-acting.
to me it appears that you begin to counter-act for the new turn right after the edge
change and your pelvis is facing the stance ski earlier in your arc than Reilly.
In other words, I believe you are passing through "square" earlier in the arc than Reilly,
and you seem to finish the arc more counter-acted.
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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby h.harb » Thu May 05, 2016 2:50 pm

I think you're right and it shows with my no swing arm pole action relative to CA.
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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby Max_501 » Thu May 05, 2016 6:42 pm

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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby skijim13 » Fri May 06, 2016 4:20 am

The other difference I see is that when Harald is to the inside of the turn his upper body forms more of a reversed "C" on the stance side and his upper torso is more over his skis. Part of this is due to more and earlier CA but I believe the part is due to not standing as straight up with the upper torso.
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Re: Skiing with Reilly

Postby B.Mulligan » Fri May 06, 2016 5:45 am

Max_501 wrote:


Wow, I love that reilly Clip. This is my favorite short harald Clip


Though it's fun to compare and contrast two of the top demo skiers on the planet. It's the things they do that are the same that makes both of them great skiers.
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