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Keep the new stance ski flat on the snow until the fall line

Postby lukezhang » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:36 pm

I am reading "Anyone Can Be An Expert Skier 2". I don't understand the following 2 points.

De-emphasize edging the stance ski at the beginning of turns and use correct free foot actions, and you’ll be able to turn your skis completely within a ski’s length of vertical distance.

Keep the new stance ski flat on the snow until the fall line.

If stance ski is flat isn't it easy to trip over and lose balance? Also does it conflict with carving high C which you want early engagement?

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Re: Keep the new stance ski flat on the snow until the fall

Postby Max_501 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:20 pm

Please provide page numbers so we can see the context of the instructions.
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Re: Keep the new stance ski flat on the snow until the fall

Postby lukezhang » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:35 pm

I got the Kindle book which doesn't have page numbers. It's from the last paragraph of "De-emphasize Stance Ski Edging" section in "Chapter 6: Free Foot Management" and Cues for Success in "Release With Ball Hold" section.
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Re: Keep the new stance ski flat on the snow until the fall

Postby go_large_or_go_home » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:02 pm

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Re: Keep the new stance ski flat on the snow until the fall

Postby dive » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:41 am

Please allow me to offer a suggestion. I am far from an experienced PMTS skier but I took a beginners camp a couple of years ago so I have been taught the basics. I hope I remember correctly.

What I am reading in these sections is not what happens to your new stance foot but what to do with your free foot. Your focus should not be on the new stance foot but on the movements (hope this is the correct word) of your free foot.

You can even find PMTS instructions that mention holding on to the Little Toe Edge (LTE) of the old free foot (the new stance foot) while tipping your new free foot. Once you tip your new free foot far enough the new stance foot will follow the movement from LTE into flat into engaging. Once you focus on your free foot the stance foot will follow.

The purpose of this instruction, I believe, is to prevent you from engaging your new stance foot first but to let you tip your free foot first. The chapter is called "Free foot management" after all :) .
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Re: Keep the new stance ski flat on the snow until the fall

Postby h.harb » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:20 am

Keep the new stance ski flat on the snow until the fall line.

If stance ski is flat isn't it easy to trip over and lose balance? Also does it conflict with carving high C which you want early engagement?


Delaying the big toe edge, is for slow speed releasing. You are talking about movements that eliminate the habitual movements of a traditional skier, who has a wedge entry and is learning to delay the onset of a wedge or teaching a slow TFRT. This has nothing to do with the high C turn which is much further up the food chain, with speed flexing and transitions. Keep what you are reading in context with the level of skier the movements are directed toward. This lis like Driving School stuff, compared to High C turns, which are more like Seb Vettel tech used in an F1 Car.
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Re: Keep the new stance ski flat on the snow until the fall

Postby lukezhang » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:27 pm

Thank you for clarification.
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Re: Keep the new stance ski flat on the snow until the fall

Postby suxsusy » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:29 pm

Good evening, i'm new in this forum and i'm still trying to understand how it works.
There are so many things i have to learn...
Can you tell me wath's the meaning of TFRT?
I didn't find it in the glossary.
Thanks to those who will answer to my question
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Re: Keep the new stance ski flat on the snow until the fall

Postby HeluvaSkier » Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:02 pm

suxsusy wrote:Can you tell me wath's the meaning of TFRT?


Welcome to the PMTS Forum Susy.

TFR = Two Footed Release

What PMTS books/DVDs do you have? At minimum I would recommend getting a copy of Anyone Can Be An Expert Skier 1... You have a much better understanding and appreciation for PMTS after reading the first book. It lays the perfect foundation for learning and understanding PMTS.
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Re: Keep the new stance ski flat on the snow until the fall

Postby suxsusy » Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:54 pm

HeluvaSkier wrote:
suxsusy wrote:Can you tell me wath's the meaning of TFRT?


Welcome to the PMTS Forum Susy.

TFR = Two Footed Release

What PMTS books/DVDs do you have? At minimum I would recommend getting a copy of Anyone Can Be An Expert Skier 1... You have a much better understanding and appreciation for PMTS after reading the first book. It lays the perfect foundation for learning and understanding PMTS.

thank you :D
TFR is an advanced level for me!
I just have that one.
But ....i'm italian and i must read two times so i' m very slow . :oops:
I like very much PMTS and your forum
Bye
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