Understanding Retraction on World Cup

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Re: Understanding Retraction on World Cup

Postby Randall Pitt » Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:09 am

Rick H wrote:Big E,

Look at frame 2 and 3 of Hischer. Frame 2, his femurs are parallel, sorta. In frame 3, the left femur is diverging. Is it a result of a massive tip, or is it an intentional movement of the knee/femur?

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Keep it close to the snow. Excellent example of free foot ankle eversion with delay of stance foot ankle inversion to buy time for center of gravity to seek optimal alignment for a strong skeletal stacked engagement of the long stance foot.
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Re: Understanding Retraction on World Cup

Postby h.harb » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:54 am

Excellent example of free foot ankle eversion with delay of stance foot ankle inversion to buy time for center of gravity to seek optimal alignment for a strong skeletal stacked engagement of the long stance foot.


Actually, the new free foot, (fig. 3) tipping toward the little toe edge, that makes the knee look bow-legged, is inverting and the new stance foot, is trying to evert, in transition, (fig. 2) it's not there yet. In figure.4 the stance foot is everted in the boot.

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With respect for Yourskicoach, (for his photography, not his coaching) this montage is his.
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Re: Understanding Retraction on World Cup

Postby BigE » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:29 am

Yes max, that's what I am referring to -- moving both knees to the inside of the turn while flexed as the (incorrect) primary movement using the muscles in the hips to cause the rotation. That is the bogus way of doing it. You are much more likely to NOT engage a clean edge this way.

The knees are *supposed* to follow the feet. You should get the O-frame like Hirscher does.
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Re: Understanding Retraction on World Cup

Postby h.harb » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:49 am

Yes, using the knees has rarely demonstrated the feel and sensitivity needed to have finesse with the ski edge engagements. When you see a WC skier like on the thread about the Austrians at Adelboden, it looks violent, however the skier has an amazing sensitivity to what the edges are doing during this ramble with speed and direction changes. These sensitivities are available to the recreational skier, if they are taught the right awarenesses and use of the lower body. This is a huge weak point in teachings that focus on leg and foot, steering and extension.
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Re: Understanding Retraction on World Cup

Postby Randall Pitt » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:00 pm

h.harb wrote:
Actually, the new free foot, (fig. 3) tipping toward the little toe edge, that makes the knee look bow-legged, is inverting and the new stance foot, is trying to evert, in transition, (fig. 2) it's not there yet. In figure.4 the stance foot is everted in the boot.


My mistake. As you correctly point out, inversion and eversion should have been switched in my statement. Still think it's one of the best examples of delayed eversion of the stance foot while actively inverting the free foot. Nice to have PMTS movements demoed by one of the best slalom skiers in the WC. The movements are clear to see with no celebral posturing needed.
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