Then he tries to use your skiing as an example of what helps pivoting and uses a totally different skiing example from Grandi to show how not to pivot. What's the point??
Epic Writes:
Is this guy trying to be confusing or is he just mixed up? Second part:Right, Max, retraction is needed in a sl race course because retraction is a more pivot friendly transition. So how is it I can retract, change edges and not change direct, if it's so pivot friendly? But if you're making arc to arc slalom turns, as Grandi is in the vidoe I provided, what YOU do in the videos I've seen of YOU consitutes excessive retraction. Excessive for and compared to what?
"It's the reason neither Grandi, nor any of the other folks in ALL those freeskiing videos, are doing it: they're doing arc to arc turns, and going for movement efficiency.
He is so out of context, you are doing short turns with tip pressure and speed control in most of the videos you post of your skiing. The Grandi video he posted is a cruiser run, with no tip pressure and no urgency to start a new arc. This has nothing to do with anything, it's just the way they chose to ski in those runs. They are using retraction, but less tipping and tip pressure, they are skiing more side cut, nothing wrong with it ,but it's not a short radius or even a slalom radius. But they are making clean arced carves.
On one hand the Epic dude writes: flexing and retraction in transition is pivoting friendly, and than writes that he never feels like he gets a redirection in transition in his own skiing; therefore he doesn't need or understand why you (Max501) control the pivoting; maybe he should learn to bend his legs to release, rather than trying to pivot his skis. Just the way he talks demonstrates he doesn't understand the forces in skiing. He substitutes clearly understood bad techniques or compensations, for his lack of correct technique or understanding or skiing, especially WC racing.
He should probably film himself, so he can see how far off base he is as a skier trying miserably relate to world cup skier movements.
Below is what I stated in my post on the subject, that is quoted by several, on Epic. I don't understand that this is so hard to understand. Unless someone has an agenda to promote steering and pivoting, disregarding much more important aspects of skiing.
HH said: Just the energy of the edge change with the legs moving from one side to the other so quickly, creates redirection, so no technique to create redirection is needed.
I could add that redirection is a matter of timing in the release. Timing a release is progressive flexing, bending and tipping. No different than any other PMTS technique for transition and a lot less complicated and useful to teach, coach and learn.
All this pivoting and redirecting talk is silly, as most skiers and racers have too many bad movements resulting from and associated with these descriptions, perpetuated on them by poorly educated coaches. The issue is that the larger percentage of racers are already creating pivoting and redirecting to their detriment. They are obviously not learning to ski with WC techniques. I know the Epic crowd doesn't see this, as they don't understand the dynamics of skiing. They don't understand pressure development and pressure release.
You just have to stand at the side of a race course from the first racer to the last for a few decades and watch all the skiing based on poor pivoting going on, to realize what is diminishing performance and what enhances it. You can't produce this by posting outrageous dribble on a forum in a virtual make believe world.
I'm sure the Epic Experts on that forum find the race course antics of over pivoting and skidding used by most racers very rewarding, because of the way they explain and understand skiing; their way is exactly what is transpiring on race courses at that level across the country. But it's not happening at the WC level, so where is the disconnect? Do they not see that their way of explaining skiing is used everywhere by the unsuccessful skiers and racers? Yet they are trying to apply this thinking to the WC, yet the WC guys are getting different results. If you do a simple deduction; the Epic type approach has traction with their local racers and skiers who are skiing unsuccessfully. Where do the Epic posters have no traction, with World Cup skiers; go figure??!!
